Okay, this is the weirdest blog entry I've ever made. What follows is the increasingly bizarre/funny exchanges (depends on your point of view) between Louise and Katy of TopSkips and a TopSkips customer. You have been warned...
Sent: 28 April 2008 23:47
To: Louise Malpas
Subject: history of skips
I've been puzzling about skips. I was overseas in 1980-85, when I came back, I noticed skips, thought... What a good idea, great design, the stacking/nesting, the lifting/tipping mechanism, a masterly bit of minimal design, so good that most people never give it a thought. Who, I wondered, Who designed it, and when? And who pioneered it in Britain?
Yet I can't find the answer on the internet!
What I did find was your website. Do you know the answer? Will you tell me?
I was told.... There's a house on Tong Road in Leeds, surrounded by derelict trucks and tractors.... I was told the man who lived there had made his fortune by inventing the skip and skiploader. But no hard facts.
I like the blog, it's given me a few smiles. I use skips a lot, have chucked a load of things in that other people might use, I've also found stuff I wanted in skips. Can't pass one without a peek.
Tomorrow I'll be chucking concrete blocks and a few doors into one.
Cheers!
2008/4/29 Louise Malpas:
Hello there
Thanks for your email. I have attached a PDF of the historyof skips. Hope it is informative. It was written by my sister Katy (we set up Topskips together with her husband a few years ago) - she is as enthusiastic as skips as you seem to sound!
You may also want to check out the website of the trade magazine that we publish -www.theskip.net
Kind regards
From: ersatz soubriquet
Sent: 30 April 2008 00:08
To: Louise Malpas
Subject: Re: history of skips
Thanks for the very prompt reply. I'd already read the history pdf, via theskip.net. Whilst it's interesting on the word, I'm still no wiser as to the origins of the steel things.
I'm very familiar with skeps, having grown up in Yorkshire, with a father in the weaving industry. All the mills had their deliveries of yarn in skeps, rectangular wicker baskets, about four feet long by 3 wide by three high. Each was equipped with buffalo hide hinges for the lid, leather closure straps, and usually a big cast-iron numbered plaque with the owners name.
The firm that made them, the name escapes me... but they were in Flushdyke, Ossett. And when the skep market disappeared almost overnight in the early eighties, the same workers found new customers for furniture, and big baskets for the sport of hot air ballooning.
Skip, Skepp, I suspect the origin is in old norse, skepp, skibh, skiff, a ship. some boats of early times were of woven construction, covered in hide, and our wicker skeps may well be mutant descendants of the corracle.
yes, I also recall the tipping trucks called skips that came out of the collieries, their ancestry is closer to the big tin things.
I'm not, by the way, particularly a skip enthusiast, though I'm sure they exist, I know people who can tell you more than you ever wanted to know about postboxes, i've heard of people who take brass-rubbings of sewer lids...
No, I'm just a bloke who's curious as to where they came from, and when.
And nobody seems to know. And I can't remember them before 1985, nor find evidence of them.
So. I worked overseas... when I came back, no street was complete without a skip. Or were they always there and I'd failed to notice?
2008/4/30 Katy Attwood:
Dear Mr Soubriquet
I like the contrast between your Teutonic first name and your Gaulish surname. It reminds me of my English teacher who in my sixth form report made mention of the 'debonair schadenfreude' that characterized my essays (I also did French and German A-level so this was his idea of a joke).
Anyway, I think you'll find that attached just the thing you are looking for (specifically pages 10 – 12). You mustn't think that we are in the skip game and publishers of Britain's only trade magazine exclusively for the skip industry without having the curiosity to discover the obscure origins of skip hire in Britain. History is important – if you don't know where you came from, you don't know who you are. Though your obvious commitment to etymology leads me to think you already appreciate this.
So as you will see, skip hire starts with our old friends – the Krauts. They are still the world leaders in the recycling industry and the biggest and best machines are of German manufacture.
If you need any further information, please get in touch. It is nice to see people with a healthy interest in this most beleaguered of industries.
Regards
Katy Attwood
Why, thank you, Skip-Sisters..
I've amassed a few names over the years. Ersatz Soubriquet came into being as a character who poked fun at very serious arty folk by sending in spoof reviews and articles to an international ceramic art magazine. Later on, he wrote for landrover club magazines..the internet unleashed him to poke sticks into other people's spokes. He is so firmly tongue-in-cheek that people think he's an international gobstopper-tester.
Slightly more serious, the alchemist and, it is rumoured, the bloke who really designed Da Vinci's machines, is Bogus Cognomen , somehow stranded here beyond his time, after the baekelite knob on his Atkinson-ThrippThrimbobulator broke.
They are sharing space in my head with the daredevil LambruscoFettucini, who tested the edible tyre.
(* The Edible Tyre, a Soubriquet invention aimed to solve the problem of old tyres in landfill. Prototyped in Pontefract, tested, by Dunlop, in Doncaster, these tyres were made using a new liquorice vulcanising process, The Basset/Jaguar special set a new lap record on these tyres at Le Mans, and performed faultlessly at speed. If it hadn't been for the unfortunate escape from a French genetics lab of a batch of unusually voracious racing slugs, (which had been bred to detect cross-border liquorice smugglers), Bertie Basset might have been with us now, or, at least, have survived the race.)
I think Debonair Schadenfreude might be a mysterious, elegant female villain, of the type so prevalent in James Bond films. I see her now, sixties retro-chic, raising one eyebrow to summon the ever attentive barman, ah! look, her ear-rings are flashing as she takes an incoming signal from her hovercopter, which is right now skimming the waves toward the secret island.
Okay, I'm a bit wiser now, re: Skips of the sixties. Now I'll have to chase up the references of Berndt Schadenfreude, in Bad-Skippenvagen, who prototyped his first skip in 1957 when he came across a scrapyard full of half finished Panzer tanks. Taking the turrets off the tank, and cutting out the top deck enabled him to scoop out all the innards, leaving a trackless tank with the ability to be stacked. "But what GOOD is it to anyone?" cried his long suffering mistress, Hannelore, as she chucked several old office chairs, two doors, and a bag of old limpet-mines into the handy steel tub................"Wait, Mum!," cried their little daughter, Debonaire "Can we throw my old cot in there too?".
Soon it was a business. As young Debonaire grew, she loved to put on her steel toecapped sandals and clamber on the trucks, dragging netting, sorting scrap... In later years, as an international woman of mystery, she would often smile, remembering the joy of finding treasure, hamster cages, barbieferraris, old toasters in papa's skipyard as she worked the giant grab....................
....Phew!